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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are awesome - great discussion! I think blog readers secretly demand high-quality articles. I know when I stumble upon a blog that is poorly written or conceived I move on. It&#039;s the gift and the curse of the internet: easy to find writing, easy to move on. It&#039;s really easy to post quickly and get that instant gratification, but it&#039;s watering down our collective quality bank. Pretty much everything in society is moving toward faster, smaller, more - and yet the slow things, those creations that require time to craft and appreciate, are ultimately more satisfying. Let&#039;s all fight our tendencies to rush out post after post. Quality finds readers and keeps readers.

However, if your site is based on ads then it makes a sad kind of sense to constantly pump out content. You want a steadily increasing stream of visitors to view your page and provide better chances for clicks. Quite the conundrum, but all it takes is a healthy batch of creativity and we&#039;ll figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are awesome &#8211; great discussion! I think blog readers secretly demand high-quality articles. I know when I stumble upon a blog that is poorly written or conceived I move on. It&#8217;s the gift and the curse of the internet: easy to find writing, easy to move on. It&#8217;s really easy to post quickly and get that instant gratification, but it&#8217;s watering down our collective quality bank. Pretty much everything in society is moving toward faster, smaller, more &#8211; and yet the slow things, those creations that require time to craft and appreciate, are ultimately more satisfying. Let&#8217;s all fight our tendencies to rush out post after post. Quality finds readers and keeps readers.</p>
<p>However, if your site is based on ads then it makes a sad kind of sense to constantly pump out content. You want a steadily increasing stream of visitors to view your page and provide better chances for clicks. Quite the conundrum, but all it takes is a healthy batch of creativity and we&#8217;ll figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wandering Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Wandering Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about print versus blogging so much that it turned into a huge blog post on my site  - too long to paste here - so I&#039;ll summarize my thoughts ... which I&#039;m sure you&#039;re just dying to hear. 

The one major change in writing for print as a result of the Web is that print articles are shorter. As to whether  or not my own writing has been influenced by my blog, I&#039;d have to say ... maybe. 

Blogging is travel writing at warp speed. I spend a tenth of the time writing a blog post as I do for a newspaper article and do a fraction of the research. And I think – at least I hope – this is teaching me to write faster in my newspaper writing, too.

The problem, though, is that while spending less time may make a blog more immediate than a print article, it’s not as carefully crafted. I agonize over finding just the right angle for a newspaper article. Being in Paris might make a great blog post, but it is not going to cut it as a travel piece. Following the footsteps of Oscar Wilde in Paris might  - and did, I wrote about it last year. 

With a blog there is less accountability. This may sound negative but I see it as a good thing. You’re your own boss. When I write for someone else’s publication I suffer from performance anxiety and this slows me down. Writing for your own blog is total freedom. And that’s the best feeling of all.

That said, why do so many blogs sound like PR rubbish? I love this! And I love that! I went here and there and I had FUN! I don’t get it. Why, with all that freedom, are people writing the same kind of schlock that they complain about reading in print? Obviously I’m generalizing. The best blogs are thought provoking, entertaining and well written, just like the best travel articles. And here’s the crux of what I&#039;ve been thinking. The best travel posts I’ve read are the ones when travel bloggers aren’t actually travelling. When they&#039;re reflecting on the nature of travel, or what kind of footprint we’re leaving, or what we’re hoping to gain and how best to describe our experience (ie posts about voice versus place). Maybe travel bloggers on the road can be too immediate. I know I’m guilty of that. Maybe it’s not a question of print versus blogging but of how to merge the best of the two.
.-= Wandering Carol´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://wanderingcarol.com/?p=944&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Travel writing – newspapers versus blogging&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about print versus blogging so much that it turned into a huge blog post on my site  &#8211; too long to paste here &#8211; so I&#8217;ll summarize my thoughts &#8230; which I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re just dying to hear. </p>
<p>The one major change in writing for print as a result of the Web is that print articles are shorter. As to whether  or not my own writing has been influenced by my blog, I&#8217;d have to say &#8230; maybe. </p>
<p>Blogging is travel writing at warp speed. I spend a tenth of the time writing a blog post as I do for a newspaper article and do a fraction of the research. And I think – at least I hope – this is teaching me to write faster in my newspaper writing, too.</p>
<p>The problem, though, is that while spending less time may make a blog more immediate than a print article, it’s not as carefully crafted. I agonize over finding just the right angle for a newspaper article. Being in Paris might make a great blog post, but it is not going to cut it as a travel piece. Following the footsteps of Oscar Wilde in Paris might  &#8211; and did, I wrote about it last year. </p>
<p>With a blog there is less accountability. This may sound negative but I see it as a good thing. You’re your own boss. When I write for someone else’s publication I suffer from performance anxiety and this slows me down. Writing for your own blog is total freedom. And that’s the best feeling of all.</p>
<p>That said, why do so many blogs sound like PR rubbish? I love this! And I love that! I went here and there and I had FUN! I don’t get it. Why, with all that freedom, are people writing the same kind of schlock that they complain about reading in print? Obviously I’m generalizing. The best blogs are thought provoking, entertaining and well written, just like the best travel articles. And here’s the crux of what I&#8217;ve been thinking. The best travel posts I’ve read are the ones when travel bloggers aren’t actually travelling. When they&#8217;re reflecting on the nature of travel, or what kind of footprint we’re leaving, or what we’re hoping to gain and how best to describe our experience (ie posts about voice versus place). Maybe travel bloggers on the road can be too immediate. I know I’m guilty of that. Maybe it’s not a question of print versus blogging but of how to merge the best of the two.<br />
.-= Wandering Carol´s last blog ..<a href="http://wanderingcarol.com/?p=944" rel="nofollow">Travel writing – newspapers versus blogging</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Chick</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomadic Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, I have to chime in again based on Carol&#039;s comment.  We have a tried and tested newspaper/magazine writer joining the debate.  She makes a strong point on common ground, but I contend that phenomenon has only progressed in the last 5 to 7 years.   A few papers closed doors due to the recession for sure, but much of it is low readership.  Hence,  newspapers had to start playing along with the blogger &quot;voice&quot;.  In the past, I&#039;d read a piece on Spain for instance, never once paying attention to the byline name.  Nowadays a piece is tooled partly through a destination&#039;s charms, but also the writer.  Example: the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moderngonzo.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Modern Gonzo&lt;/a&gt; guy began traveling in 2003, due to word of mouth the Vancouver Sun picked him up as a  regular columnist.  Was he a trained journalist?  Nope.  His rise to writing and hosting a travel show was partly luck (I&#039;m sure), but also his persona.
.-= Nomadic Chick´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nomadicchick.com/gypsy-bits-and-bytes-travel-2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gypsy Bits and Bytes&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, I have to chime in again based on Carol&#8217;s comment.  We have a tried and tested newspaper/magazine writer joining the debate.  She makes a strong point on common ground, but I contend that phenomenon has only progressed in the last 5 to 7 years.   A few papers closed doors due to the recession for sure, but much of it is low readership.  Hence,  newspapers had to start playing along with the blogger &#8220;voice&#8221;.  In the past, I&#8217;d read a piece on Spain for instance, never once paying attention to the byline name.  Nowadays a piece is tooled partly through a destination&#8217;s charms, but also the writer.  Example: the <a href="http://www.moderngonzo.com/" rel="nofollow">Modern Gonzo</a> guy began traveling in 2003, due to word of mouth the Vancouver Sun picked him up as a  regular columnist.  Was he a trained journalist?  Nope.  His rise to writing and hosting a travel show was partly luck (I&#8217;m sure), but also his persona.<br />
.-= Nomadic Chick´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.nomadicchick.com/gypsy-bits-and-bytes-travel-2/" rel="nofollow">Gypsy Bits and Bytes</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting counterpoint on differences (or similarities) between newspapers/magazines and blogs, especially for a blogger who hasn&#039;t written for these media. Another vote for voice! Thanks for stopping by - hope to see you around more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting counterpoint on differences (or similarities) between newspapers/magazines and blogs, especially for a blogger who hasn&#8217;t written for these media. Another vote for voice! Thanks for stopping by &#8211; hope to see you around more!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your honest take on the blogosphere. I agree with your point that there&#039;s an audience for all types of content, but without sufficient exposure those folks won&#039;t find the blog they&#039;d really like. It seems like it could become a decision about whether to write the &quot;generic&quot; content you abhor to generate traffic or plow on with your selected style. 

Thanks for stopping by and hope to see you around again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your honest take on the blogosphere. I agree with your point that there&#8217;s an audience for all types of content, but without sufficient exposure those folks won&#8217;t find the blog they&#8217;d really like. It seems like it could become a decision about whether to write the &#8220;generic&#8221; content you abhor to generate traffic or plow on with your selected style. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and hope to see you around again!</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anil - I agree with you. Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anil &#8211; I agree with you. Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Wandering Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-108</link>
		<dc:creator>Wandering Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this discussion but whoaaa, isn&#039;t there a big bias here, with people stereotyping magazine and newspaper articles as staid or generic or guide-book-type-info or, um, boooring, as opposed to blogging which is more about &#039;voice.&#039; Okay, to a large extent, this may be true. There&#039;s a lot of dull shlock out there in newspaper land. But. Not. Always. As a travel writer (and travel blogger) who writes mainly for newspapers,  I&#039;ve spent a  lot of time trying to get published while writing the way I wanted to, crafting a piece like a short story with humour and conflict and way too much &#039;I&#039;  - actually, I still do that, but my point is, take a closer look at some of the big publications - there is more common ground between blogging and newpaper writing than people might realize. I tried for years to break into the Chicago Tribune, and when I finally did, it was with a piece that began: &quot; &quot;Am I going to die?&quot; I asked Josie.&quot; That said, it&#039;s all about voice! If I want to know where the museums are I&#039;ll grab a guidebook, but if I want the flavour (excuse my spelling, I&#039;m Canadian) of a place, I google every travel article I can find, and the best are the ones where writers are confident enough to assert (insert?) their personalities. Through their slant, a place comes alive. The destination is the framework for an article - but it&#039;s the voice that makes it sing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this discussion but whoaaa, isn&#8217;t there a big bias here, with people stereotyping magazine and newspaper articles as staid or generic or guide-book-type-info or, um, boooring, as opposed to blogging which is more about &#8216;voice.&#8217; Okay, to a large extent, this may be true. There&#8217;s a lot of dull shlock out there in newspaper land. But. Not. Always. As a travel writer (and travel blogger) who writes mainly for newspapers,  I&#8217;ve spent a  lot of time trying to get published while writing the way I wanted to, crafting a piece like a short story with humour and conflict and way too much &#8216;I&#8217;  &#8211; actually, I still do that, but my point is, take a closer look at some of the big publications &#8211; there is more common ground between blogging and newpaper writing than people might realize. I tried for years to break into the Chicago Tribune, and when I finally did, it was with a piece that began: &#8221; &#8220;Am I going to die?&#8221; I asked Josie.&#8221; That said, it&#8217;s all about voice! If I want to know where the museums are I&#8217;ll grab a guidebook, but if I want the flavour (excuse my spelling, I&#8217;m Canadian) of a place, I google every travel article I can find, and the best are the ones where writers are confident enough to assert (insert?) their personalities. Through their slant, a place comes alive. The destination is the framework for an article &#8211; but it&#8217;s the voice that makes it sing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My blog is almost completely useless for getting any practical information about the places I travel. Blogs evolved from online personal journals to become a wide variety of different websites that run the gamut from boring, to informative, to raucous, to irreverent and still to the intimate personal details of other people&#039;s lives.  Travel blogs often contain several of those factors, and some find popularity while others don&#039;t. For me, it&#039;s about finding small stories in the places I go, and some of them aren&#039;t really tied to place. 

The big thing to remember is that for every type of blogger, there&#039;s a reader looking for that sort of content. I subscribe to a number of travel blog RSS feeds at any given time, and enjoy the prep and travel posts, but to be completely honest, I&#039;ll often unsubscribe once the trip is over and the blogger decides to go &#039;professional.&#039; I abhor list articles, guest bloggers, and an ever changing stream of miscellaneous posts put up to meet the weekly quota and drive adclicks. I&#039;m looking for the writer&#039;s voice, and I want to know who&#039;s words I&#039;m reading when I land on a site. If I want the generic writing, I&#039;ll pick up a magazine. The writing is tighter, the information is cleaner, and the photos are usually a notch above. I strongly believe in the editorial process, and find that&#039;s the biggest weakness with blogs as mass media. While not perfect, there&#039;s a level of professionalism and craftsmanship that I find lacking in many of the magazine style blogs.

But all of that is just me, and I&#039;m only one man with one opinion... well, I have a LOT of opinions, but that&#039;s another problem altogether.

NB: There are many exceptions to the criticisms I&#039;ve made above, and many brillian bloggers running around the interwebs unchecked, but I find it sometimes difficult to sort them from the multitudes of other blogs clogging the pipes.
.-= Mark´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markfeenstra/~3/UMQJruomS0U/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Slow Travel&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blog is almost completely useless for getting any practical information about the places I travel. Blogs evolved from online personal journals to become a wide variety of different websites that run the gamut from boring, to informative, to raucous, to irreverent and still to the intimate personal details of other people&#8217;s lives.  Travel blogs often contain several of those factors, and some find popularity while others don&#8217;t. For me, it&#8217;s about finding small stories in the places I go, and some of them aren&#8217;t really tied to place. </p>
<p>The big thing to remember is that for every type of blogger, there&#8217;s a reader looking for that sort of content. I subscribe to a number of travel blog RSS feeds at any given time, and enjoy the prep and travel posts, but to be completely honest, I&#8217;ll often unsubscribe once the trip is over and the blogger decides to go &#8216;professional.&#8217; I abhor list articles, guest bloggers, and an ever changing stream of miscellaneous posts put up to meet the weekly quota and drive adclicks. I&#8217;m looking for the writer&#8217;s voice, and I want to know who&#8217;s words I&#8217;m reading when I land on a site. If I want the generic writing, I&#8217;ll pick up a magazine. The writing is tighter, the information is cleaner, and the photos are usually a notch above. I strongly believe in the editorial process, and find that&#8217;s the biggest weakness with blogs as mass media. While not perfect, there&#8217;s a level of professionalism and craftsmanship that I find lacking in many of the magazine style blogs.</p>
<p>But all of that is just me, and I&#8217;m only one man with one opinion&#8230; well, I have a LOT of opinions, but that&#8217;s another problem altogether.</p>
<p>NB: There are many exceptions to the criticisms I&#8217;ve made above, and many brillian bloggers running around the interwebs unchecked, but I find it sometimes difficult to sort them from the multitudes of other blogs clogging the pipes.<br />
.-= Mark´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/markfeenstra/~3/UMQJruomS0U/" rel="nofollow">Slow Travel</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://www.traveling-savage.com/2010/02/02/the-travel-bloggers-draw-voice-or-topic/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience will continue to matter for, there&#039;re way too many permutations and combinations possible even for a place that&#039;s been covered widely.

A blogger can hope to bring his / her voice to bear on it.
.-= Anil´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://windyskies.blogspot.com/2010/02/notorious-cannon-by-hazarduari-palace.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Notorious Cannon by the Hazarduari Palace, Murshidabad&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience will continue to matter for, there&#8217;re way too many permutations and combinations possible even for a place that&#8217;s been covered widely.</p>
<p>A blogger can hope to bring his / her voice to bear on it.<br />
.-= Anil´s last blog ..<a href="http://windyskies.blogspot.com/2010/02/notorious-cannon-by-hazarduari-palace.html" rel="nofollow">The Notorious Cannon by the Hazarduari Palace, Murshidabad</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, every writer does have their unique style.  Good point.  I should elaborate, we spoke of destination being the primary  &quot;voice&quot; in relation to print travel writing, which keys into Gary&#039;s insightful comment.  I agree with him on blogging versus magazine/newspaper writing.  In fact, I think you&#039;ve tied into it as well, blogging is a fresher voice on travel writing.  Think how Hunter S. Thompson redefined journalism, his personality was just as large as his writing escapades.
.-= Nomadic Chick´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nomadicchick.com/gypsy-wednesday-shes-come-undone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gypsy Wednesday – She’s Come Undone&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, every writer does have their unique style.  Good point.  I should elaborate, we spoke of destination being the primary  &#8220;voice&#8221; in relation to print travel writing, which keys into Gary&#8217;s insightful comment.  I agree with him on blogging versus magazine/newspaper writing.  In fact, I think you&#8217;ve tied into it as well, blogging is a fresher voice on travel writing.  Think how Hunter S. Thompson redefined journalism, his personality was just as large as his writing escapades.<br />
.-= Nomadic Chick´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.nomadicchick.com/gypsy-wednesday-shes-come-undone/" rel="nofollow">Gypsy Wednesday – She’s Come Undone</a> =-.</p>
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